A Bug with IW? - Guild Wars Forums

arcticfox14 · Feb 04, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Hey everyone, first post of the boards. I thought I should throw something out here to be looked at regarding Illusionary Weaponry. I've been running a Mo/Rt smiting build in RA lately, and it's been going great, but when I ran up against IW builds, I'd get slaughtered. I noticed that IW doesn't trigger Vengeful Weapon, Weapon of Remedy, or Reversal of Damage.

I blew it off as a technicality regarding damage types, but then I realized that IW's description says "Target foe takes ...42 damage," and these skills' descriptions say "whenever" or "next time" "target ally takes damage..." Note that IW triggers Reversal of Fortune as well, but none of these skills, though the descriptions are the same as far as triggers go.

Is this a bug that needs to be fixed? Thanks for the input. =)

Taala · Feb 04, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Not sure really. Reversal of Fortune prevents any damage dealt to you, but the Weapons and Reversal of Damage only trigger when you take damage from a foe. Now IW says "you deal no damage in melee", so this could mean that the damage isn't coming directly from the foe.

Edit: And I might suggest using correct forums in the future. Questions and Answers is the best place for this.

Retribution X · Feb 04, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I've noticed this too, But I'm pretty darned sure it triggered before the update.

Crazyvietguy · Feb 04, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Perhaps it being triggered was a bug? and they "fixed" it.

Batou of Nine · Feb 05, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Vengeful Weapon - For 8 seconds, the next time target ally takes damage from a foe, that ally steals up to 15...51 Health from that foe.

I am pretty sure that it isn't triggering because of the "from a foe" part. As Taala said, IW damage is indirect damage. Since that foe is not technically doing any damage to you from his own weapon, perhaps that is why IW users do not trigger weapon spells. All those skills that you list also describe the "from a foe" condition...

Do not quote me on that, but i am pretty sure that is why they don't trigger!
Cheers!

Feb 04, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#1
arcticfox14 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: None Profession: Mo/	A Bug with IW? Hey everyone, first post of the boards. I thought I should throw something out here to be looked at regarding Illusionary Weaponry. I've been running a Mo/Rt smiting build in RA lately, and it's been going great, but when I ran up against IW builds, I'd get slaughtered. I noticed that IW doesn't trigger Vengeful Weapon, Weapon of Remedy, or Reversal of Damage. I blew it off as a technicality regarding damage types, but then I realized that IW's description says "Target foe takes ...42 damage," and these skills' descriptions say "whenever" or "next time" "target ally takes damage..." Note that IW triggers Reversal of Fortune as well, but none of these skills, though the descriptions are the same as far as triggers go. Is this a bug that needs to be fixed? Thanks for the input. =)

Feb 04, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#2
Taala Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006	Not sure really. Reversal of Fortune prevents any damage dealt to you, but the Weapons and Reversal of Damage only trigger when you take damage from a foe. Now IW says "you deal no damage in melee", so this could mean that the damage isn't coming directly from the foe. Edit: And I might suggest using correct forums in the future. Questions and Answers is the best place for this.

Feb 04, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08	#3
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	I've noticed this too, But I'm pretty darned sure it triggered before the update.

Feb 04, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#4
Crazyvietguy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: [Njk] Profession: Rt/	Perhaps it being triggered was a bug? and they "fixed" it.